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Weapons should be the same for ships or turrets, but, turret should have specializations, quick and snappy turret for anti fighter and point defense, slower turrets for cannons vs bigger ships. Size1 repeters in a normal poweret slot should have a optimal range of 500meters (just saying a number).. and the energy bolt disperse completely at 1,5k The same size1 repeters on a bigger ships with power to spare, could be configuret at the cost of more energy per shot, a more stable energy bolt, so a turret in this ships could engage at 2k for optimal damage, and interception of missiles and torps. This will generate bubbles of engagement, AA fighters fight at 1k bubble, medium size ships could engage with cannons at 5k and with repeters at 2k.. capital size should be engaging with cannons at 10k and repeters at 5k, yeah.. try to hit fighters at 5k.. but you could installs some flaks intest of cannons. (numbers are examples xD) But this should be an option, part of customization, not a inerint part of turret.

Who says that you should be able to pop a Cat with a Gladius, since you can't loot it anyway and there is no reason to ever attack a Cat with a solo Gladius. If you find that strange wait until physical damage and armor is in and small ships only having 1-4 size guns make even less damage to medium to large ships with a little armor. If people just want to pop ships for fun, there is AC for that. Everything else should have a reason and takes some effort. Like bringing the right tools for the job. And a solo Gladius is definitely not the right tool for a Cat.

Sorry, I Totally disagree with time to Kill/Disable these are ships, not wet paper bags! They are a big investments! How would you feel if I could just Feather touch your car to make it totally fall apart & explode? Too many games today have "Shit" for Gear ( No durability whatsoever.) You'd hate to spend 30 mins preparing only get "One" (1) shotted, One (1) minute out of the gate. (And I have) Fights needs to be Epic! TTK should 5 minutes Not 5 seconds. If I wanted to get one shotted I'd go play World of Tanks. A Grumpy Grandpa 😖

You also have to deal with the upcoming engineering challenges that multi-crew ships will have to contend with.

I totally agree with that a single seater lone fighter should not be able to destroy a fully crewed bigger ship. ie. A single gladius destroying a fully crewed HH.

The first 80% of the work requires 20% of the effort, the remaining 20% requires 80% of the effort.

I am wanting to get into being a bomber pilot and so getting involved in capital ship and fleet engagements sounds really exciting.

fun my ass .....

Auto gimbals show some good potential. Perhaps engineering can add more power with the wrinkles of having to repair turrets. Always fun having that comm MFD that likes to DM anyone.

A simple solution would be Turret version of guns or turret exclusive guns that can not be equipped on anything other than a turret. It's not even rocket science to do that. Giving turret weapons much faster projectile speeds or dedicated beams/pulse lasers that are hit scan would eliminate the problem of a single tiny fighter being unkillable for multicrew ships.

Clearly this man has never run full ballistic. You can melt an 890 in seconds

I still feel the big multicrew ships are maybe just a touch too fast in combat modes and once CIG the give the turrets some weapon buffs they should slow the roll speeds on them to make it easier for turret gunners to maintain targets in their field of fire.

CIG have no idea what they are getting into. To balance PVE and PVP is going to be a nightmare. There are AAA games that have entire teams balancing these two separate game modes, they don't do anything else. There is a reason why most games will keep those separate. But here we are, with more ships than CIG can keep up with, trying to balance PVP and PVE in the same universe, and with one dudes vision who seems so hell bent on making MM a thing. Now they want to make turrets on sub-capitals/capitals act different? AND add all those extra weapon types? On what timeline will this happen? Certainly not the current one we are living in because we are 12 years in and only now working on MM. But whatever it is what it is

I do think multicrew turrets should remain active while in nav flight mode/quantum mode before the jump

Well said Hybrid V

Possibly unpopular opinion: soft death should be the normal death state for bigger ships and the should be repairable so there's an advantage to grouping up and coordinating. That wouls also making boarding more important.

4:30 Disagree prior to MM, all ship weapons were basically limited to 4K. This means small ships had to close in order to actually be effective. Now with MM, they ranges are 12-14K depending on setup. MM did change gunnery for the worst. Oh and not even talking about the new sniping mode which makes it even easier for ships.

3:40 This is because all guns have built in dispersion or cone fire. This is just plain geometry. As I said below, small ship far away difficult to hit while same small ship can hit the large ship at the same range without much skill.

Turrets are already different from the same weapons on fighters. The capacitor is absurdly much larger. If you make turret weapons magically better, everyone is going to detach them from the turret and put them on a fighter. That puts you back to square 1. Thinking of Elite Dangerous, the station turrets are so effective and feared because they're real lasers, so hitscan. That would certainly make fighters think twice. ED balances this by having a severe damage fall-off.

2:30 That is so wrong it is ridiculous. If you want multi-crew to be a thing, turrets have to be effective. Otherwise, we go back to 3.2 and before when turrets were useless, and everyone just drove their own ship. Let's not even talk about this opinion makes the Hammerhead a useless ships. The issue is geometry. Distance plus dispersion plus size of ships means the current dispersion cone for turrets is too large. A fighter can hit a hammerhead or large ship at 10K about 80% of the time. While a turret can hit a cutlass at 10K 15-18% of the time, and when you take into MM reducing speeds. A large or medium ship can never close the distance. This is the issue. CIG needs to make turret effective at range. So either project speeds of turrets combined with smaller dispersion needs to be a thing OR something in between. CIG already setup the fire rates meta for fixed versus gimbal. Why not make a special mode for Turrets which speeds up the projectile and lowers dispersion at the cost of Firerate. This would allow turrets to engage at the 10K ranges with a stable ship. In my opinion, If turrets are useless, then multi-crew is dead.

The whole idea with capital ships in PU is flawed. Maybe they can create a separate epic space battle game mode in arena commander where you get action for the time invested. If you are gaming with your buddies, there are currently no incentives to man a turret vs take a second ship. There are no incentives for a small ship to engage in PvP battle against capital ship. Being the turret guy is and always will suck. The sooner CIG realizes that, the earlier they can redirect the dev effort to better things. And please, don't mention NPC crew. Currently they are dancing on the tables and will continue to do so many years from now.

Your wrong about escaping. I've been killed several times now in seconds after coming out of quantum (at Orbital Markers) in medium and small sized ships -- Constellation and smaller. It happens way too fast to escape, before you can even raise shields and way before you can quantum, and there seems to be no way to keep this from happening, other than to stay away from OMs entirely. So, if your not space rich with a big ass ship, your dead.

its years from release, calm down..

the solution is sooo easy. make a weapon: Range Medium- High / Firerate High / Damage Medium and give it an very low Mag size. so lets say an Corsair with full set have 3 shots......but a Turret have a way bigger Cap or in other words bring the Attrition back to live, give them less spread an the described damage gain when longer fireing a litle bit more range and increas the Energieusage. an the other thing orienting the waepons mor on the real world..... smal guns have smal range and low speed /Big guns have Longe range and high speed 9mm = 100m/~600m/s .300WM = 800m/ ~1000m/s

The turret game is based on WW II type of vehicles. Imagine modern vehicles engaging with missiles over 50k

We really do need a near hit scan, but low DPS weapon to pushish the fighters that sit at max range, wearing them down and forcing them away this would also be an idea anti-torpedo weapon We also need some better HUD work for turrets, e.g. targets outside of ur weapons range should be less bright Torpedos should have a different marker to missiles as a priority target We also should have markers showing if other turrets are targetting ur target The new gimbal modes were a fantastic addition to the turrets, but its only one part of the puzzle edit, we also need accross the board, but particularly for turrets, % loss of function with damage with turrets, that should be a huge HP pool, but as they get damaged have slower traversal rates etc rather tahn easily being destroyed additionally there need to be a solution for saving those turret gunners realistically, ideally at a certain point they should get incapped and automatically pushed back into the ship to get revived for example % damage = % function loss is imperative for the TTK to work, otherwise it'll always be a 'run away shields up and come back' game, each time that ship comes back it shoudl be less effective if you manage to do some damage to its power plant etc

My biggest issue with Turret control is that the player's head moves faster than the turret when using a joystick, so you end up no being able to see anything if you don't use Mouse control for turrets. Its been an issue for a long time now and its kinda of kills the experience at least for me. I haven't been able to find a fix in the options.

A note on turret ESP: There are some additional ESP tuning adjustments coming for 3.24 including new sliders to change them to taste. Multi-crew and naval combat has been interesting researching as a topic as of late. As you all know, I'm a big fan of multi-crew and naval warfare so it has been a blast seeing it shape up since the introduction of 3.23. Again, still some issues here and there, most notably with turrets but we will have to wait and see how CIG addresses the issues in 3.24 and beyond. Let me know how you have been enjoying multi-crew as of late. I recommend you check out my guide to naval combat in SC if you have not already seen it. ua-cam.com/video/mYVVobRns6E/v-deo.html Remember that teamwork is they key to long term success in such a complicated MMO like SC. If you are looking for a group of like minded individuals to take part in complex combat operations such as Naval Warfare. Be sure then to check out our Org The Forgotten Heralds. Visit forgottenheralds.org to apply today. - Become a member and support the show! ua-cam.com/channels/eSMtWcJwjm6Dj4GrWFngqA.htmljoin Join the Discord! discord.gg/mRFMCANaCu See you all in the next one. o7

You are pronouncing Valkyrie incorrectly. It is Val - ker - ree

All that build up and you didn't let us know what was in the box? Shame on you. 😂

you missed me landing a cutty red into the side of a mountain.

My favorite way to take off from a hanger with overhead doors is to lift off just a bit, raise my gear as I'm pitching to 90° and with full throttle and afterburner, take off like a rocket! I like to switch to external camera facing the front of the ship to get the full affect of the speed I'm leaving behind the hanger.

As an Eclipse fan, this looks like a dream come true.

house of the dying sun vibers

Call me crazy but I like Master Modes. I have seen far fewer accidental collisions. I'm also careful to not enter atmo if I see ships. I use Nav mode as a space brake. Because I use voice control the change was not that bad to learn. I call out the modified commands.

Dude, I dunno... SC is trying a little too hard to just be Star Wars. Multi-crew ships just fight like bigger slower single-seaters but with turrets lol A contemporary DDG from our 2024 era could solo an entire server's worth of SC multi-crew ships, I don't see anything 'scifi' about this at all. IF CIG wants a little inspiration, they could maybe look to The Expance for a little more variety in combat loops and scope. Maybe toss in some rail guns for medium range? Missiles for long range engagements? Some electronic warfare, additional layers of gameplay? Guns are fine if the fight devolves into a close-range brawl, but there should be a couple more layers above that, not just 'turrets go burrrrrt lol" and that's it. We're in space, we have a ton of room to fight. Why does combat have to be everyone fighting in a broom closet? lol

Amazing video, man! I always wanted to see a real 1 HammerHead (7 people) vs 7 fighters, battle. In theory HH should almost always win.

copilot helmsman stfu loll dude this is game we don't need a 2nd your Motion doing noting lol

I kinda want to do a WWII style escort mission in-game. Maybe one of these days a Xenothreat or similar mission will require us to provide an escort to a UEE capitol ship as we progress to its goal. Who knows? Maybe when the game officially releases, we will get to do that as it makes its way to aid in the defense for Earth/Terra (i forgot which one).

My main problem isn't that it's all bad... No, Master Modes does have potential but it has some glaring issues right now that are just making the game Murder Hobo Central. Now these are not your run of the mill PvPers... I have no issue with them in fact I mix it up with PvP a little myself and never shy away from it. No these are the opportunists that will use exploits or other means to get quick easy kills so they can shit talk. These are not PvPers they are straight up Player Killers. Xenothreat is overrun with them right now. These are the bottom feeders in the PvP ranks. Master Modes has enabled this... period. If CIG does not correct it they will lose a substantial portion of their playerbase. Now I'm not saying ditching it completely is the answer either. Right now with Master Modes a very large portion of the player base are upset as it seems like CIG sold them a bill of goods at this point. People were told that this game would support all play styles but right now it's a PvP gankfest. I also can't quite put my finger on why exactly but the game feels a lot more Arcade now and much less Sim. This is a combination of Master Modes and the new UI. About the new UI... I'm going to be perfectly honest here... the new UI is a cluttered mess. You can't even see your targets half of the time because of the HUGE labels on absolutely everything. It's a confusing cluttered mess. They really need to clean it up... a lot. Master Modes isn't all bad but it needs a lot of work. For one thing no shields in Nav Mode is just a mistake. It you want shut down recharge but leave them up so you have at least some protection. This way they would have to eat through your shields giving you a little more time to escape. Or have them dissipate at a much slower rate then just gone in a second. Nav mode just gives Gankers a free pass to do damage right now and that is it. Some ships can be killed in a couple of seconds with no shields. All this does is give the bottom feeders free kills... as many as they want. The game right now is designed to drive half the playerbase away from this game. If Star Citizen is to have a future they have to cater to the carebears as well as the edgelords. Neither side can support this monolith of a game on their own. It will fail and the last 12 years will be for naught.

Imagine if capital ships had beam turrets like in FreeSpace 2

Is there longer episode? This was great!

30:50 felt like the enemy caterpillar was doing okay up until it charged forward and fumbled the bag at the end.

Greetings, I fly my 400i as my go to for almost everything I do (Mostly bunker missions) and when I got it, I thought I was gonna rip off it's nose at 1st but I got used to it quite a lot. Now I'm always landing in Cinematic ways with it. Once you know how to gage it's nose, it's a piece of cake.

This gameplay is giving me hope for the future. 😍

I wouldn't hate a 3D experience of World of Warships.

I agree... Never leave your ship open unless you are right there and aware of everything going on around you. I actually was at Everus Harbor and I pulled out my MSR to fly to Arccorp. When I got to the Hanger I looked around and didn't see anything out of place so I opened my ship, went up the ramp but... I've gotten into the habit of doing a complete circle to the right at the top before I look at the door panel and I always position myself at the door control so I can see the ramp. Sure enough someone who was hiding in the hanger ran up the ramp right in front of me and tried to stand in the opposite corner in the bay hoping I would just turn and head for the elevator. I stood there and stared at them for a few seconds before I ran down the ramp closed it and went and stored the ship. They appeared at the Asop area almost instantly and immediately headed toward the hanger elevators to try again. This is not the first time someone tried to sneak on my ship so I'm aware of the tricks they use. Don't make it easy for them and close up your ship unless it's absolutely necessary to open it and make sure your head's on a swivel the whole time you have it open. Also never assume you are alone anywhere in the Verse.

Some great footage here mate.

MPUV - Personnel Module is the escape pod for the large military ships and is the same dimensions as the escape pod of the 890 Jump